From Bretigne Shaffer:
Related to Josh’s comments, it’s important to recognize that even the people promoting this vaccine understand the risks of giving this rushed-through vaccine to so many people, and understand that it constitutes a massive human experiment.
One example: Paul Offit.
A friend transcribed some of his comments from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4xClOYM3iE
At about the 9:35 min mark:
“Twenty thousand people isn’t 20 million people and you’re only going to find out a rare serious adverse effect post approval. That’s definitely true. That’s always true…The term “safety” in the medical world means that benefits outweigh what are at this point theoretical risks. That’s what the word safety means. It doesn’t mean absolute safety…We may find that it causes a serious adverse event post approval. I hope not. But if we do, we have to be open minded to the fact that that might happen… “
10:46 min mark:
Dr. Baucher: “…Does the notion that this is mRNA [vaccine] make you more concerned or less concerned?
Dr. Offit: “Well, more concerned. I mean, we have no commercial experience with a messenger RNA vaccine. So what we’ve done is you take this naked piece of messenger RNA. You encapsulate it into this complex lipid delivery system which enables the cell then to take it up. I mean, if you just injected messenger RNA, the ribonucleases in your body would immediately destroy it. So it wouldn’t work. So you ‘re trying to protect it to get it into the cell. So now once it’s in the cell, that messenger RNA is self reproducing in a sense. So and now you’re making the protein. You’re making the coronavirus spike protein which then for the most part gets inserted onto the cell membrane and to a lesser extent gets excreted into the circulation.
WHAT TURNS IT OFF?
WHAT MAKES IT SO THAT IT IS NO LONGER MAKING CORONAVIRUS SPIKE PROTEIN ANYMORE?
If you look at the animal model studies, mice, for example, you would ASSUME that goes on for about 10 days.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN HUMANS, I DON’T KNOW.
I MEAN, WE WILL FIND THAT OUT, I THINK OVER TIME.
The other thing is that it’s also true of all proteins that, foreign proteins. It’s going to be broken up into like a 15 or 20 mer (? Inaudible) piece that’s then put on the surface of that cell so that you can stimulate either with MHC1 or 2 glycoprotein to stimulate cytotoxic (inaudible ?) T cells, to stimulate T helper cells, because this mRNA is going to also be picked up by antigen presenting cells.
SO WHICH IS MORE COMMON?
IS IT BEING PICKED UP PRIMARILY BY MYOCTYES? MUSCLE CELLS?
IS IT BEING PICKED UP PRIMARILY BY ANTIGEN PRESENTING CELLS?
WHEN IT’S PICKED UP BY THE MYOCYTES IS IT JUST PICKED UP BY THE MYOCYTES THAT ARE TO SOME EXTENT DAMAGED AS YOU PUT, AS YOU INJECT IT?
I MEAN, ANTIGEN PRESENTING CELLS ARE MORE LIKELY TO ACT AS SCAVENGERS AND PICK IT UP MORE EASILY.
WHAT’S GOING ON?
YOU KNOW, YOU DON’T KNOW EXACTLY ALL OF THAT.
So, it’s always a little uncertain because you know, I just think you have to be humble in all of this, that THERE ARE THINGS I AM SURE THAT WE DON’T KNOW YET and so we have to be open to the fact that we don’t know everything.
So keep our eyes open.
But on its face, you know, we’re dealing with a pandemic that’s brought us to our knees. I mean, we have massive joblessness and homelessness and food insecurity.
IF this vaccine in anyway looks like the top line data looks, it’s a lifesaver.”