Election theft in Michigan and Florida may have been more dramatic than we think…

From Jonathan Simon:
Here is the EP/VC Pres table updated to yesterday evening (note the slowly shrinking redshift of the national EP/VC).
Now the caveat:  It is vitally important to understand, for anyone keeping score at home, that a number of states, including two critical ones, span two timezones. This is of critical importance because it means that the EPs are not publicly posted until a full hour after the polls have closed in much of the state and much of the votecount has come in. This in turn means that Edison has pretty much all of their Quick Counts, and enough overallvotecounts, that their algorithm is capable of adjusting the poll results to near congruence with the votecounts prior to first public posting.
Please make sure you understand this fully.
Unfortunately among the split-zone states we find FL and MI, both of which have a tiny part of their territory in a more western timezone, allowing most of the adjustment process to take place before we are able to screencapture anything. This goes a long way to explaining the apparent absence of red shift in Michigan and a relatively modest looking red shift in Florida.
Of the states that we are most closely scrutinizing, it should therefore come as no surprise that FL and MI look “cleaner” that NC, PA, OH, and WI. This must be taken with a big shaker of salt (i.e., FL and MI may be dirty as hell and are almost certainly a lot dirtier than they look on the EP/VC table)–though it may be a bit much to explain publicly, especially when first introducing this data to the unwashed.
As if it wasn’t tough enough. — Jonathan

4 thoughts on “Election theft in Michigan and Florida may have been more dramatic than we think…”

  1. Interesting how the exit polls almost mirror the vote count in Oregon, California, and Washington State. They are very accurate. Must be evidence of more honest voting?


  2. Funny how there is a “red-shift” for Trump, and even a “purple-shift”, as reported for Hillary against Bernie in some primaries, but NEVER EVER a “Blue” shift.

    These “shifts” are obviously artificial, IMO, or we’d see some tendencies in the OPPOSITE direction in some areas. But we don’t, anywhere.

    Also, the “argument” that Trump-voters would not admit in exit polls who they voted for because they were “embarrassed”.———-Uh, I’ve got news for America, but exit polls are entirely VOLUNTARY, and most folks just walk right by them after voting—Only a fairly small number of people bother to stop to take the poll, and there is absolutely NO PRESSURE to participate in ANY exit poll, so how could there possibly be “embarrassment’?
    What bunk!

    The “red-shift” is cheating—Election Fraud.

  3. Please Donate to Jill Stein’s RECOUNT of three states–Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin:


    Crosscheck Is Not Just Crooked,
    It’s Criminal

    Monday, December 5, 2016

    After reading my report on the Kobach/Koch/Trump operation, which has removed tens of thousands of minority voters from the rolls in the swing states that surprisingly shifted to Trump, former federal judge (and now [Florida] Congressman) Alcee Hastings told me Crosscheck is a criminal violation of federal law. Hastings has called for criminal indictments and written an official Congressional member letter to ask for investigation.


    Clint Curtis fights for democracy again in Florida, years after testifying before Congress (Democrats did nothing then, perhaps now) about his unwitting part as the computer programmer who designed for Republican FL Speaker of the House Feeney his requested program to flip elections in 2000.

    Murder, Spies & Voting Lies (the Clint Curtis story

    QUICK SUMMARY: The Clint Curtis / Tom Feeney / Yang Enterprises, Inc. Vote-Rigging Scandal


    Attorney suing for Florida recount asks Hillary Clinton voters for affidavits
    By Bill Palmer | December 6, 2016

    Late last week Clint Curtis, the attorney representing a nonprofit election integrity group, officially filed suit in Florida to try to force a recount for the 2016 presidential election in the state – a development which was initially reported on by Palmer Report four days ago, and has since also been belatedly covered by the likes of Time Magazine and USA Today. In the latest development, the attorney is seeking affidavits from Hillary Clinton voters in Florida who experienced or witnessed any sort of trouble which could help build his case.

    In a publicly publicly visible Facebook post, Ulf Erlingsson shared the following details and call to action in Florida:
    The recount team welcomes affidavits from voters who have an experience to tell from the Nov 8th election:
CALLING for Clinton voters in FLORIDA: We need you!

    Clint Curtis, Atty at Law, has filed the motion for a recount last night in Tallahassee.
    *In Florida there are basically 4 different grounds for a recount. The brief covers most, if not all of them. There would need to be bribery of an official, misconduct complaints like being turned away at the polls illegitimately, machine malfunction, evidence of hacking, etc… that could potentially effect the outcome of the race. We lost in Florida by 119,000 votes.

    ** We need to gather at least 120,000 (preferably more) signed affidavits (personal accounts that are notarized) that we could present as evidence.

    *** If you are someone who was either turned away at the polls, sent to varying polling locations and were never able to vote, had an experience of being obstructed in any way from voting (traffic jams, etc..) or any other things that occurred that effected your ability to vote that were suspect, or if you were a poll worker or observer and noted something that caught your suspicion that could indicate election fraud or hacking, please follow the simple instructions below:

    1) Write a short personal statement about what you experienced.

    2) Have it notarized immediately. If you can’t afford a notary, often times the major banks will do it for free if you have an account with them. Otherwise, email us at law@clintcurtis.com for alternative means

    3) Have your notarized copy of your statement scanned and emailed to law@clintcurtis.com no later than 12/13/16
Please share widely


    More details emerge on lawsuit filed against Donald Trump to force Florida recount
    By Bill Palmer | December 3, 2016

    On Thursday we reported that a nonprofit group was attempting to file a lawsuit in the state of Florida to force a hand recount of the ballots in the 2016 presidential election. On Friday we subsequently reported that the attorney for the case had confirmed that he had indeed filed the suit. And now the details of the lawsuit have become publicly available.

    In a thirteen page PDF copy of the official court filing, which the nonprofit group in question has publicly posted to its website, numerous details stand out. The suit from the law offices of Clint Curtis has named dozens of defendants. Chief among them: Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Florida Governor Rick Scott, and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. Individuals appointed to the Electoral College by the state of Florida are also listed as defendants, as they’re the ones who would be changing their votes if a Florida recount determines that Hillary Clinton actually won the state.

    The stated legal grounds for the lawsuit: “Receipt of a number of illegal votes or rejection of a number of legal votes sufficient to change or place in doubt the results of the election” and references what it calls “pervasive malfunctioning of electronic voting machine” along with more than twenty-five thousand mail-in ballots that were requested in Democratic-leaning Broward County but were never received.

    The legal document goes on to list hundreds of other alleged and documented irregularities during the course of the 2016 presidential election voting process in Florida. It’s worth noting that the suit has not only been filed against Trump and Pence, who benefited from any cheating or rigging, but also Rick Scott and Pam Bondi, who both have close political ties to the Trump campaign and have both been rumored to be in consideration for Trump’s cabinet. Meanwhile recount processes are underway in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If you enjoy Palmer Report, consider making a contribution:


  4. http://www.einpresswire.com/article/356830377/de-la-fuente-files-federal-election-suit-in-florida

    De La Fuente Files Federal Election Suit in Florida

    ORLANDO, FLORIDA, UNITED STATES, December 5, 2016 /EINPresswire.com/ — ORLANDO, Florida, December 5, 2016 – “Rocky” Roque De La Fuente filed a lawsuit in federal court today in the Northern District of Florida to challenge the election process in that state. De La Fuente was the Reform Party’s 2016 presidential nominee in Florida and ran primarily on the basis of bringing substantive election reform to the United States.

    De La Fuente brought suit against County Supervisor of Elections Dr. Brenda C. Snipes, both personally and in her official capacity, and Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner in his official capacity.

    Snipes allegedly committed acts and omissions that served as the direct and proximate cause of massive absentee ballot election fraud within Broward County in the 2016 Florida general election. De La Fuente’s complaint is based upon a sworn affidavit submitted by a temporary employee of the Supervisor of Elections for Broward County who publicly alleged that she witnessed defendant Snipes’ employees engaged in absentee voter fraud by systematically filling out blank ballots in a locked room.

    The suit seeks to enjoin Detzner from applying Title IX, Chapter 102, Section 166 of the Florida Statutes, which fails to provide any review upon an allegation of election fraud. The statute prevents a recount from occurring unless the vote margin between the top two competitors is less than .25%. As such, De La Fuente’s complaint asserts that the statute deters the discovery of election fraud and encourages massive election fraud because the larger the fraud the more likely that the election results will not be within the .25% margin.

    De La Fuente said, “Effectively, Florida’s statute says, ‘If you’re going to cheat, cheat big.’ You just need to make sure your margin of victory is more than .25% to block any chance of a recount. That’s ridiculous, and it fails to protect the rights of Florida’s voters.”

    The complaint goes on to argue that the statute violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment because it precludes a recount other than under an extremely narrow set of circumstance, it provides “no avenue to review election ballots upon factual allegations of election fraud,” and it “encourages election fraud because election officials, and others in a position to execute a fraudulent election scheme, can be reasonably confident that the challenged statute will prevent any examination and/or discovery of their unlawful conduct absent the existence of extraordinary third party testimonial evidence.”

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