September 16, 2005
Debating Cindy Sheehan
Bill O’Reilly vs. Phil Donahue
By CounterPunch News Service
Transcript from the O’Reilly Factor, FoxNews

O’REILLY: In the past Miss [Cindy] Sheehan has criticized Israel, saying it is occupying Palestine, has called Iraqi insurgents “freedom fighters,” has accused Americans of killing people ever since we stepped on this continent, has threatened Hillary Clinton with the loss her job unless she calls for a pullout of US troops from Iraq and has called the US action against Afghanistan a failure. Quite a resume and with us now is Phil Donahue, who supports Miss Sheehan’s “dissent.” So, I’m assuming you don’t – you don’t support all her positions that I just chronicled.

DONAHUE: Let’s understand what’s happening here. Once again we have a woman who got to be just a little too famous for the people who support this war, a minority of the American population, by the way, and so the effort to marginalize this woman is underway and you’re helping out.

O’REILLY: I’m the leader of the pack!

DONAHUE: You’re suggesting …

O’REILLY: I’m the leader of the pack!

DONAHUE: First of all, Cindy Sheehan is one tough mother and nothing you say or anyone else is gonna slow her down.

O’REILLY: That’s fine. She has a right to …

DONAHUE: You can’t hurt her. She’s already taken the biggest punch in the nose that a woman can take.


DONAHUE: She lost a son.


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